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[sonic33]

I keep lipochrome red Mosaics and I am having trouble keepin the white flight feathers they have
A off white colour to them
I only feed plain canary seeds and bianco egg food from hatching until 8 weeks of age when I start colour feeding
I have been putting apple in the mash
Any ideas or solutions would be most helpful //)) #

[Pantaleo Rodà]

I don't think apple could be the cause, but have you tried not to use it? I know that peas, for example, give a yellowish appereance to flight feathers...

[sonic33]

No but I am not going to use it this year and no peas or greens at all

[Tony Buglisi]

Peas color too much. I used it this season an Was a disaster. Sorry for my bad english

[sonic33]

Tony your English is good is better than my Italian I don't know how my Italian translates
I am pulling my her out trying to think what to use so I can get true white flights
I was at a Belguim vvnk show last weekend and saw a product called lus bianco have you tryed this
Mabe it's the egg mash I am using

[Tony Buglisi]

I used lus bianco from 2years but was same. Many breeders said me that the problem is the peas for lipocromic canary

[sonic33]

Yes they do love the peas but they will not be getting them this year I shall try something else

[RenatoGala]

Sorry for my bad English, but I read about foods that can cause staining of the wing in white mosaic canaries. Peas and egg certainly can cause this defect. But we must not forget that the amount of the lipochrome deposit on the feathers still has a genetic root. Probably improve the quality of the subjects used for breeading may reduce the problem.

greetings to all

Renato Gala

[Tony Buglisi]

Absolutely right Mr. Renato . If you want to figure out if it's just a question of food or genetics of your canaries , try unplugging some feathers and provide only the seeds.

[sonic33]

Thank you Renato Gala for your reply
I undestand what you are saying and I am about to get some male birds that have white wings to put into my blood line
As I did give this a thought.
although it seems it only affects my male birds my hens do not show this fault so it may be genetics

[RenatoGala]

normally males have higher lipocrhomic carge. The mosaic canaries have areas of colour well-defined. Furthermore, there are selection lines "male type" and selection lines "female type" ... obviously in line "male type" the defect is much more frequent.
the choice of the breeding males is vital. Once you've got youngs you can test two formulations of different feeding systems beetwen the half of the youngs in order to understand what is the best and which are the differences.

Good luck

Renato Gala

[vinny]

It has been said but i want to repeat it again because it is very important: nutrition plays a lot in unwanted coloring of the flight feathers but what you need to take care of most is the genetic of your stud, starting to eliminate from the breeding pairs all the adults that presented the problem in their first year. This alongside an almost maniac care of what you feed to your mosaic canaries during the breeding season should get you there: peas, rape seeds, egg yolk, carrots, spinach and other veg that are rich in beta-carotene should be avoided.
Regarding your breeding stock maybe you should consider introducing one or two cocks of high and well defined genetic.

Regards, Vinnie